[ appliance ] Message 176: Mon Feb 6 1989 6:37pm From: Zaphod, Fugitive Galactic Prez Subject: phone installation The first thing the phone techs tried was to pull another line through conduit. Unfortunately it turned out that the fools that put the line in originally (as part of the house construction) direct-buried it so there is no conduit there. Not that they told us that to start. The first guy they sent out encountered some difficulty, so a more experienced person came out to have a look. He said "don't worry, we'll take care of it", but when I came back he had just left a message saying "Third service subscriber must provide trench". We had to get the supervisor out there doing the whole thing again before we got the real story. In fact he had to come out again (fourth phone-company trip to our place) to tell us exactly what we had to do (how deep to dig the trench, what kind of conduit, how to mark the end, etc.) I asked whether it would make any difference if we had more phone lines put in at once and they said no; it is a set $39 to connect each line regardless of whether they just have to hook up a wire or (as in our case) dig a trench all the way around the corner (several hundred feet.) You take it to the edge of your property; they take it from there.
[ whine ] Message 3844: Mon Dec 18 1989 9:05pm From: Zaphod, Galactic Prez Fugitive Galactic Prez (armoror@ucscb) Subject: hmm... speaking of phone lines... the Armory has achieved breakeven! I mean, uh, breakthrough. I finally determined that the layer of sand that we were depending on to tunnel through came to an abrupt end before the Great Root (though it worked well to tunnel through under the Great Sidewalk). So, I hacked away at the clay until I had picked a hole through it (and killed my back). Got the pipe in today. Had to climb up on the roof (for the first time) to do it... don't ask why. All we need to do now is call the phone company, and fill the friggin' trench back in. If we're Real Lucky, we'll have 4+ phone lines here just about exactly one yEaR after we started working on it. Which brings to mind the thought... we should have an Armory First Anniversary Party, shouldn't we? Hmmm...
[ House Rivalry ] Message #88 (last) Wed Jan 24, 1990 9:00pm From: Armoror Subject: phone/trench thatz why i said 'phone people' instead of 'phone company' :-) nope, the pc itself doesn't dig trenches anymore. it was a contractor. and in fact, they came back yesterday and cut the road. and in fact, came back today and dug it up and, ah, laid their pipe... 'twas interesting, they cut straight across the road to the center divider, then up the divider to the point where the box was, then across the street to the box. which makes perfect sense, since the divider isn't covered with concrete (just dirt). They put a Genuine Phone Company Mini-Box right next to the termination of *our* pipe, ready to serve all of our future needs, and used the string I left in it to pull through some Genuine Phone Company Heavy Duty Twine, much more Industrial Strength than the stuff I left. Presumably they will come by tomorrow or sometime soon to use it to pull through a cable. Then We'Ll hAVe OuR PHoNe liNeS at lAST!!!
[ House Rivalry ] Message #164 (last) Wed Feb 14, 1990 11:04pm From: Armoror Subject: Armory Phone System is finally largely in place. I think I'll write up a story on our trials and travails. Anyway, there's lots of capacity in place now. I just tonight fixed the line to my room that Mike Scott cut last summer. There are currently 3 lines; two more will be added in the next few days. Then, Irene/John, CraigN/Liz, Dierdre, and Marlo/CraigJ/Bela will each have private voice/modem lines, and ye olde 426-9371 will be a house voice-only line. Things worked out well enough, it just took a while! So, how many active lines does theHouse have now, huhhuhhuh??? :-)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 09:32:24 GMT From: John DuBois Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Maximum Number of Phone Lines to a Residence? Organization: The Armory Pac Bell seems to be pretty good in this respect. When we moved into this house, I asked the landlord how many phone lines there were; he told us that it had previously been rented by "computer scientists" who he was sure had had plenty of lines. But, when we got around to ordering our third line, we discovered that there were only two. An installation person came out and tried to pull a third line through the conduit that appeared to connect their-end with our-end. Didn't work. So a more experienced person came out, and assured us he'd take care of it. I returned to find a message on the door saying "Third service subscriber must provide trench". Huh? I called to ask what the deal was, and a supervisor came out and told me that the conduit-end poking out of the ground next to the house was fake; the line had been direct-buried! He said we'd have to put in conduit, buried at least 18" deep, from the house to the edge of the property to get more lines. We could do it ourselves or they could get a contractor to do it for us for some large amount of money. But, they would be glad to bring as many pairs as we wanted to the edge of the property. I decided we'd do it ourselves, since it was only twenty feet, and how hard could be it be to dig a twenty foot, 18" deep trench? Ha. Turned out there was a rock layer 12" down, plus the occasional root structure we had to burrow under. It ended up taking us a year of off-and-on pickaxe & shovel work, interspersed with giving up on it, to get it done. I was tempted to use explosives at times. Certainly gave me more respect for trenchdiggers. I think I'd rent a backhoe next time. But, we did get it done, and I laid the PVC per their instructions, after spending 'way too long trying to figure out how to get a piece of string through a 20' PVC section (they wanted it to pull the cable through); first time I climbed on the roof of this place... Then they came and looked at it and said, Oh, actually, you must have the end of the conduit within 6" of the house. Grr. The thought of digging a new trench for the last 10' or so didn't appeal to me, so I just unburied the end and dug a notch to allow me to tip over the end so that it leaned up against the house. I wondered what they'd think about that, but they didn't have a problem with it. Their contractor came and dug a trench down the street (taking advantage of the unpaved center divider) to give us our extra lines, at a cost of somewhat over $3K, which they absorbed. Then the Pac Bell people came and used my Wimpy String to pull through some of their Hardy Phone Company Twine, and then came back again and pulled through the cable. I had asked them to pull 10 pairs through, for further expansion, and they had assured me they would, but when they were done there were only five. But at least it was in conduit, so when we needed more they used the one 5-pair cable to pull through two 5-pair cables, which has sufficed so far (5 voice lines, 5 data lines). They have so far been very understanding of my need to have four phone lines in a hunt group at residential rates. The only hitch has been that I can't have my open-access system listed by name unless I pay business rates. But I can live with that. And whoever rents this house after *us* will find it nicely wired :) John